Wednesday, October 3, 2007

Help?

So i have 2 goals before baby #2 gets here...

1- Get Owen to sleep at a decent hour in HIS OWN bed and to STAY in his bed all night long.
2- Potty training (big sigh)

SO i need advice. How many of your 2 year olds out there are on a regular sleep pattern? Are we completely weak parents? Here is the backround.... Little stinker is bouncing off the walls until... mmmmm 10pm. Finally he mellows out, which is then followed by 1 hour AT LEAST of trying to get him to GO TO SLEEP. We rock, lay with him, read stories, sing....you name it. 1 hour!!!
PS. This event also occurs at nap time EVERYDAY. (and to those who may say he might be done with the whole nap thing...TOO bad. That time is my saving grace so im not ready for him to be done).
Needless to say, i am not going to be entertaining a newborn and a 2 year old at 4am. HELP, i need advice!

2nd-ly, any potty training Do's and Dont's would be much appreciated. We haven't yet tackled this but needs to be done in 3 months!

I trust you....now let me have it...

17 comments:

The Fab Fabian Life said...

Oh Lindsay I feel for you... being a nanny I have had so many kids and seen so many different situations. I am going to write you an e-mail so you don't have a huge long comment from me!

Mary and Ryan said...

There is a book called, "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child : By: Marc Weissbluth" I read it and did everything it said. I was the sleep nazi for awhile and it totally worked. Dallas goes to bed at 7:00, and has for a year now. This book rocks. As far as the potty training, You are super brave to do it this early. Give me tips when you are done!! Good luck!

The Powells said...

Good luck with the sleep thing, Tyson is still waking up off and on - I'm afraid I have no advice there...as for potty training I was reading this book and it said something to the effect of get them used to potties and comfortable with them before you actually try and make them use em. One of Tysons birthday presents was a small training potty. We set it right in front of the big one and whenever he's in there while we're "going" we point to the potty and tell him what its for then we let him flush it. Then we point to his potty and tell him that it's his. When he's grunting - you know what I mean :) - we pick him up and take him to his potty so that he can start associating the two things. That's all we're starting with. Owen is older and perhaps a little wiser...he'll catch on fast. :) Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Potty training-start having him sit on the toilet for fun, like an intro. Make a HUGE deal out of undies, let him pick them out. And I learned from lots of accidents. Take HIM to the potty every hour or so, DONT leave it up to him to know when to go until he picks it up himself. Its work for a while, but you will have fewer accidents and he will get it. And wait until he is "ready" or you will be cleaning poopy undies rather than diapers.
GOOD LUCK!!
Oh, and dont go between the diaper and undies, it will only confuse him. Like when you go out, take him to the potty first thing when you get to the store or before you leave. My sister was putting a diaper on him when they went out and it was harder for her in the long run.

jeannie said...

Sorry this is long I don't have your email.
OK after being totally frustrated after potty training my first, which was a girl supposed to be easy right, wrong (which took 9 months of sheer terror- LuAnn can attest) I was scared to do the next boy. So I took some advice from friends totally worked and was done in 1 day for the most part, the next boy done in 2 days. This is what they said,
Pretty much have them naked or just underpants the whole day, give them massive amounts of juice, have a potty chair handy (you can even do this outside) then have a reward for getting the pee in the potty. If they have an accident put them in the shower right away (cold water helps cuz they don't like that, sounds mean but just say have to get pee off fast and sorry water is cold)
So just like the DOG and the bell theory it works, they don't like the cold water but they love the reward so they will pee in the potty.
My third Reece peed on the tile the whole first day, I was so frustrated almost gave up, the next day he was accident free!!
Another TIP: if you use pull-ups only use them when you are going out and put them on over the underpants that way if they have an accident you don't have a mess but they can feel the wetness, YUCK!!
ALSO - once you start putting underpants on don't go back, it will make it harder!!

jeannie said...

oh and good luck!
The sleep thing, I just beat my kids until they will sleep!! LOL

Jess Perry said...

I second what Mary said and read that book. And I am also a sleep Nazi. At times Trent and I have really suffered and not slept but Bryn has learned to just work it out. So buy some earplugs and let him work it out. Does he crawl out of his crib yet? If so...I have no suggestions.
And then with the potty training thing...I don't know. I haven't started that battle yet. So you let me know good tips on that!!

Vanessa Jane said...

lindsey. my advice. I'll send you an email too. one thing though, if owen is ready to potty training and is showing the signs then I would go on with it. but be careful if he isn't, I know that if kids are not ready then they can have a relapse & the potty training can go on for years instead of a week. it's very interesting. the 2 books that I go by are called Baby wise and toddler wise. they are amazing, but they have some controversial things that I don't necessarily like about them too. just check your email and I will give you more things that have helped me.

Vanessa Jane said...

by the way the 2 books full titles are On Becoming Baby Wise and On Becoming Toddler Wise. good luck.

Kyrsten said...

My niece is the same way. What they do is, they put her in her room at 8. She plays for awhile, but then eventually she puts herself to bed. They tried everything and this was the best. Every time she plays less and sleeps more.
We are waiting to Potty Train Izzy after I am done with school, but my friend said her sister had a day where they basically sat on the toilet all day. They read books, watched movies, and so on. Her niece was potty trained in a day. I am leaning toward that option, but we will see.

fREnCh TrOSt said...

I have so many goals before the next baby comes so I totally understand the frustration. Brookyn was sleeping through the night since she was 7 weeks old, I was spoiled. (But I used the book Baby Wise as a guideline to get her to sleep) When we put her in a big girl bed she started waking up at night and since she could get out she would come climb in bed with us. It was cute for a few nights but I eventually put a gate up at her bedroom door so she couldn't get out of her room, and now if I hear her wake up I just put her back in her bed. It's gotten tons better and I'm hoping she'll stop waking up all together. Good luck, I know it's hard.

Rachel said...

We had a really good experience with potty training, which was really a surprise to us since we had heard so many nightmare potty training stories. I noticed she started recognizing when she went potty- she would tell me she just went in her diaper, or she would tell me she needed to be changed, etc. Then I made a HUGE deal about her being a big girl and bought her panties and made a big deal about going potty on her special potty and EVERY time she went we would get super excited and try and be really positive and I also filled a jar up with skittles and she got to have one "potty treat" for going number one, and 2 treats for going number two. She loves treats so that worked, after a while she was going all the time just to get a treat so then I bought her a piggy bank and started giving her "potty pennies" it wore off after a while and now she is good to go.

I don't know what to tell you about sleep. Maybe start a nightly ritual where you do the same thing every night. Bath, story, song and tuck him in, tell him goodnight and shut the door. If he gets out of bed and comes out of his room just keep putting him back in bed without saying anything to him or making eye contact (saw that on super nanny) and eventually he will learn to stay in bed?! It might take a couple of hours but each night the time should get shorter and shorter. I would start trying to put him down earlier and then if he fights it he will still get to bed at a decent time :) good luck! Sorry this is sooo long!

Erin said...

My kids by two have been on a good sleeping pattern, not to say that some days we have our moments, or I guess they do. One of the things we have done with our kids is they have NEVER slept in our room, they have always been noisy sleepers so it's easier for us to have them out of the room since birth. Also around 12 months we make sure they can go to sleep on their own and the only way we have found to do that is letting them cry it out, which is one of the HARDEST things we have done. We do 5 minutes and go check and each time increase it by another 5 before we check on them again. Another thing we have tried, is sitting in their room while they cry in the dark, but don't look at them or talk to them, and stay there until they fall asleep, and each time get closer and closer to the door until you are out the room. It's hard, but worth it.
Potty training, they have to be ready. And depending on how close you are to having number two, it might be worth just waiting until you have a good routine with the new baby, since they can regress. My biggest advice it put them in underwear and hang out outside or somewhere with easy to clean floors and let them feel what it's like to be wet. The only time I used pull-ups were when they were sleeping. Good Luck.

Kennell's said...

Hey- I found you through Jamie's blog, and I feel your pain!!! I have an ALMOST 2 year old, and a 4 month old- I am not sleeping either, and we also have a little monkey wrench thrown in. The 23 month old still wants his 'Bobbo'(bottle) and when he is screaming for it at 3 am, it's pretty darn hard NOT to give him what he wants. My 4 month old ALMOST sleeps through the night which is tough cause I am breastfeeding, and that brings a whole new set of problems,,,,, aghhhh! With the potty training, I would recommend using underwear from the beginning, cause those darn Pull-Ups are JUST like diapers....Good Luck to you, Looks like you are already a TERRIFIC mommy!!!!

Lance and Becky said...

It's tough Linds, hang in there! Lance is pretty hyper too, I've had to adjust somethings lately. He's in a big boy bed now, and has been since before Rylie was born...it's not a toddler bed, but I hear they're good too. Anyways he started waking up earlier in the morning like 6:00, and so I started putting him down for an earlier nap (around 12-12:30) and he is in bed around 8-8:30, now he is waking up around 7-8 in the morning, but he's doing a ton better. I would try putting him down earlier in the afternoon, that way he might go down easier at night, but I don't know, I'm so not an expert, but reading always helps too! As far as potty training, I'm not trying that for a while, but I heard that if you do it before a baby comes (soon before) they will revert back, but I don't know??? You'll have to give me lots of advise when you potty train...trust me!

Jessica Brown said...

ok so you have tons of great tips already, but one tip I would give is a book called the Baby Whisperer. It is soo good! Olivia sleeps so great and I think it is thanks to that book. She teaches the acronym EASY: eat, activity, sleep, your time. Emphasis on the YOUR TIME!! Good luck!

Unknown said...

Oh my... I feel yur pain! We finally had to "wean" Lex off of co-sleeping, so every 5 minutes wed go in and comfort him, then after a period of time, every 10 minutes, and so on... until he got to where he'd do it himself. We'd also have a routine. Dinner, play, bath, movie and Silk sippy, and sing a few verses of a song... then bed. He's out no later than 8. As far as potty training, not there yet. Not looking forward to it either!

Ashley
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